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Simon M
Royaume-Uni
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24/1/2007 16:43
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Ubwirwa n'iki ko uri Umuhtu/Umututsi????
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Rwandans,

We seem to hate or like each other or group ourselves depending on regions, clans etc... but the following is fascinating.

African Y chromosome haplogroup found in WHITE BRITISH:

There has been proper scientific research published in the European Journal of Human Genetics that shows White men from a particular area called Yorkshire have a Y chromosome of West Africa descent.

Their family tree shows black inhabiting Yorkshire well before the slave trade.

Furthermore, DNA analysis of the third US president, Thomas Jefferson mapped his Y chromosome to North-East Africa or Middle East.

And more importantly, rather than behaving as supremacists, please note that the majority of White Brits, through science, have understood: "(...) what it means to be British is complicated and always has been".

Why would being Hutu/Tutsi/Twa be simple? Kuko nta research, ubwenge bwacu ari kumazuru, uburebure, ubugufi, aho ava, sekuru, sekuruza etc....!!!!!!!!!!

"Human migration history is clearly very complex, particularly for an island nation such as ours, and this study further debunks the idea that there are simple and distinct populations or 'races'."

None se abantu nka ba Mr R, cyangwa abajya mu mashyamba kurwana bavuga ko barwanira amoko yabo bazi bo ari bande?

Kuvana amoko mu ndangamuntu siwo muti kuko n'ubundi abari biyizi ko ari Abahutu/Abatutsi/Abatwa bakomeza kubyimenyaho no kubimenywaho n'abandi.

Uwashaka kuba koko umurevolutionaire yakoresha Y chromosome analysis.

Byahenda ariko ahari byacecekesha abantu nka ba Mr R cg abandi barwanye batekereza ko barwanira ubwoko maze bakaba bakwikanga bategekwa na ba Ruharwa (aha ndashaka kuvuga n'abo mu bwoko bundi- ni image nkoresheje gusa).

Mumbabarire navangavanze indimi.

Simoni

 

Simon M
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Rwandans,

We seem to hate or like each other or group ourselves depending on regions, clans etc... but the following is fascinating.

African Y chromosome haplogroup found in WHITE BRITISH:

There has been proper scientific research published in the European Journal of Human Genetics that shows White men from a particular area called Yorkshire have a Y chromosome of West Africa descent.

Their family tree shows black inhabiting Yorkshire well before the slave trade.

Furthermore, DNA analysis of the third US president, Thomas Jefferson mapped his Y chromosome to North-East Africa or Middle East.

And more importantly, rather than behaving as supremacists, please note that the majority of White Brits, through science, have understood: "(...) what it means to be British is complicated and always has been".

Why would being Hutu/Tutsi/Twa be simple? Kuko nta research, ubwenge bwacu ari kumazuru, uburebure, ubugufi, aho ava, sekuru, sekuruza etc....!!!!!!!!!!

"Human migration history is clearly very complex, particularly for an island nation such as ours, and this study further debunks the idea that there are simple and distinct populations or 'races'."

None se abantu nka ba Mr R, cyangwa abajya mu mashyamba kurwana bavuga ko barwanira amoko yabo bazi bo ari bande?

Kuvana amoko mu ndangamuntu siwo muti kuko n'ubundi abari biyizi ko ari Abahutu/Abatutsi/Abatwa bakomeza kubyimenyaho no kubimenywaho n'abandi.

Uwashaka kuba koko umurevolutionaire yakoresha Y chromosome analysis.

Byahenda ariko ahari byacecekesha abantu nka ba Mr R cg abandi barwanye batekereza ko barwanira ubwoko maze bakaba bakwikanga bategekwa na ba Ruharwa (aha ndashaka kuvuga n'abo mu bwoko bundi- ni image nkoresheje gusa).

Mumbabarire navangavanze indimi.

Simoni


 

Nduwayezu
France
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24/1/2007 20:26
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RE: Ubwirwa n'iki ko uri Umuhtu/Umututsi????
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Muvandimwe Simon, Banyarubuga.

Nkunda ko uvuga amagambo nkunda kumva ,komera ukomeze ujijure Abanyarwanda dore ko Abahanga bacu baboneka iyo ali uguhangana gusa ,naho iyo bali mumahanga usanga ugirango ubuhanga bwabo babusize mugaseke barapfundikira.
Jyewe mbona ikibazo dufite atali Hutu_tutsi ,kuko uretse Abanyarwanda utabasha gutandukanya , muli America Abazungu n,Abirabura barabana mumahoro nyamara muli Somalia barananiwe kubana, Abaga n,Abanyiginya baramaranye ku Rucunshu mugihe Nduga na Abakiga baruguye igiculi.
Ikibazo si Ubwoko ahubwo ni Ubwenge bwacu.
ABAHANGA CG INJIJUKE
Muli rusange usanga imyigishilize y,Abirabura aliyo itugiraho ingaruka ,kuko usanga muli Afulika twigira gutsinda ,tutigira kumenya ,noneho umaze gutsinda akumvako birangiye yabaye umuhanga byarangiye ,naho byahe birakajya. Ngirango niyo mpamvu usanga Izo Ntiti zacu izabashije kwandika ibitabo cg kubwira abantu muruhame wazibara.Zihaguruka gusa muli Politiki zivuga nkabasazi ,zishakira kurya ibyarubanda zitavunitse ,usanga rero izo nkirabuheli ziyita ko ali abahanga alizo zitugeza ahalindimuka.
Muli Afulika niho honyine umuntu agikangisha amadiplome ngo ni umuhanga ,ahandi uba umuhanga kubera ibyo wakoze nuiyo mpamvu ntawe bahaye Prix nobel ya Medecine kuko afite amadiplome menshi.
Muli Afulika niho honyineUmuntu ahemberwa ibyo azi ,nyamara ahandi umuntu ahemberwa icyo akoresha ibyo azi.
Kuko Kuba Ufite Licence muli Politiki sibyo bikugira umupolitisiye.Iyo rero urebye usanga Abanyafulika imyigishilize n,imyumvire yacu bigoye.
Mperutse kugirana Ikiganiro n,umuntu umwe anyumvisha ko U Rwanda rutuwe ,ko Abanyarwanda ali benshi ,ko tugomba Kugabanya imbyaro n,ibindi byilirwa bivugwa hanze aha.
Aliko Namusobanuliye ko en perspective iyo Tuvuze U Rwanda atali aliiliya Carte geographique yu Rwanda gusa ,ko niyo mpamvu tutumvikana ,kuko iyo jyewe Bavuze u Rwanda :mbona Ziliya Prefecture 10(mumbabalire ngo zarahindutse)nkongeraho ikirere cyurwanda nkanongeraho ikuzimu murwanda : ni jyenda uhubake uzagaruke umbwire kuntu urwanda rutuwe.Twubatse etage byibura ebyili kuli buli inzu urumva ko twaba tugabanijeho ahatuwe inshuro 2,yarambwiye ko ntaho Twabona ibyuma byo kubaka etage ,namubwiye ko nabonye aho bubakisha etage imbaho gusa.
Urumva rero birahagije ko wifungirana mukabati ukarahira ko hanze ntazuba liva.
Ngarutse Usanga babanyabwenge bacu yumva ko ntakindi yakora ,ko ntakindi yashobora niyo mpamvu usanga umuntu aba umwalimu ubuzima bwe bwose ,umuganga ubuzima bwe bwose.
Usanga Nta gusoma uretse kwijajara bagasoma inzoga n,abagore nta kindi Abahanga nkabo rero usanga ali nkabombe igomba gutulika.
Kubera iyo myigire idafudutse iyo abashije kugera muli Politiki amera nkinyana yumutavu atangira kwiruka hitrya no hino akaraga akalizo akabura icyo yareka nicyo yakora ,uretse kuba ndiyo bwana ntagitekerezo agomba kuzana kuko mubuzima bwe ntiyigeze yiga gutekereza ,Abantu rero nkabo bibitekerezo bike nkuko amateka yagiye abitwereka bibasira abahanga(cfr Galillee), itiku ligatangira.
Akavuga Hutu nyamara ntanicyo azi kubyerekeye origine yiryo jambo ,akavuga Tutsi ntazi naho ilyo Jambo liva.
Akavuga ingengabitekerezo ya Genocide nyamara ntanazi uko Cerveau y,umuntu ikora, ntashobora kwibaza impamvu kano karere tugasangamo ingenga bitekerezo, Aho kwibaza WHY? Akisubiza Because mugihe ntabushakashatsi bwabaye>
Umututsi iyo ahahamutse akica umuhutu babyita ihahamuka, naho umuhutu yahahamuka akica umututsi ngo ni ingengabitekerezo.....
Abahanga basanze ko umuntu yiga par repetition ,guhora uvuga ikintu cyane ,waba ukibuza abantu cg ukibategeka barushaho kugikora.
Kuva amadini yatangira Kwamagana ubusambanyi niho bwiyongereye , kuva murwanda Batangira Kwamagana urumogi rwavuye kubatwa n,andi moko atangira kuruvutagura....

Ngarutse rero kubyerekeye Hutu tutsi ,usanga muli rusange hagati yabahutu n,abatutsi ntarwango ruhali tuzira umusemburo wabategetsi ngo uko zivuze niko zitambirwa. Nubwira umukecuru ngo Haguruka ushinje umwicanyi ruharwa muli Gacaca ninjoro akagucamo kabili urumva ko ali wamugani ngo Nyiliakalimi kabi yatanze umurozi gupfa .Urabona ko Ali uliya mukecuru aba azize Abategetsi babi.
Niyo mpamvu rero mbona mugihe tugifite Abategetsi badashaka kwicira ngo bige bajijuke bamenye ko igi ryahannye inyoni ,ntaho tuzagera ,nanyuma yiyi ngoma hazazaho zimwe zitera intambwe imwe imbere zigatera inyuma 2.
Banyarwanda Banyarwandakazi, Mbona ko ikibazo atali hutu tutsi kuko Kajeguhakwa ni umututsi wakotanye cyane agahemukira abo mukazu bali baramugize umukaraza ,umubito mubagabo yabataye ahamanuka nyamarase alihe?
Abatutsi bishwe cg bahunze nibangahe? Abaruheze inyuma nibangahe?
Nuwo Musaza Umwami Kigeli ntibaziko uliye umusaza aruka imvi? ntibamuliye se?
Garuka Kubinani ntibyibasiye Abahutu bigitarama ngo bakabogesha urwabayanga ntibali abahtu?
Ikibazo rero mbona atali hutu tutsi ,ahubwo nibwabwenge buke bwabategetsi bagera kungoma bakamera nkusinze intulire agatangira kwihagalika kukibindi.Iyo bageze kungoma babura icyo bakora nicyo bavuga ,bakazana gusa amagambo meza aliko ayo magambo siyo abaturage barya !!!!bakamera nkumubyeyi ukubita umwana ngo aliliye ibiryo ,boshye ko inkoni alizo arya ,alinaho havuye inshoberamahanga ngo Gukubitira Abana kuryama.
Bavandimwe ndabona mbaseye tuzongera




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Rwandans,

We seem to hate or like each other or group ourselves depending on regions, clans etc... but the following is fascinating.

African Y chromosome haplogroup found in WHITE BRITISH:

There has been proper scientific research published in the European Journal of Human Genetics that shows White men from a particular area called Yorkshire have a Y chromosome of West Africa descent.

Their family tree shows black inhabiting Yorkshire well before the slave trade.

Furthermore, DNA analysis of the third US president, Thomas Jefferson mapped his Y chromosome to North-East Africa or Middle East.

And more importantly, rather than behaving as supremacists, please note that the majority of White Brits, through science, have understood: "(...) what it means to be British is complicated and always has been".

Why would being Hutu/Tutsi/Twa be simple? Kuko nta research, ubwenge bwacu ari kumazuru, uburebure, ubugufi, aho ava, sekuru, sekuruza etc....!!!!!!!!!!

"Human migration history is clearly very complex, particularly for an island nation such as ours, and this study further debunks the idea that there are simple and distinct populations or 'races'."

None se abantu nka ba Mr R, cyangwa abajya mu mashyamba kurwana bavuga ko barwanira amoko yabo bazi bo ari bande?

Kuvana amoko mu ndangamuntu siwo muti kuko n'ubundi abari biyizi ko ari Abahutu/Abatutsi/Abatwa bakomeza kubyimenyaho no kubimenywaho n'abandi.

Uwashaka kuba koko umurevolutionaire yakoresha Y chromosome analysis.

Byahenda ariko ahari byacecekesha abantu nka ba Mr R cg abandi barwanye batekereza ko barwanira ubwoko maze bakaba bakwikanga bategekwa na ba Ruharwa (aha ndashaka kuvuga n'abo mu bwoko bundi- ni image nkoresheje gusa).

Mumbabarire navangavanze indimi.

Simoni


 

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----- Message d'origine -----

Rwandans,

We seem to hate or like each other or group ourselves depending on regions, clans etc... but the following is fascinating.

African Y chromosome haplogroup found in WHITE BRITISH:

There has been proper scientific research published in the European Journal of Human Genetics that shows White men from a particular area called Yorkshire have a Y chromosome of West Africa descent.

Their family tree shows black inhabiting Yorkshire well before the slave trade.

Furthermore, DNA analysis of the third US president, Thomas Jefferson mapped his Y chromosome to North-East Africa or Middle East.

And more importantly, rather than behaving as supremacists, please note that the majority of White Brits, through science, have understood: "(...) what it means to be British is complicated and always has been".

Why would being Hutu/Tutsi/Twa be simple? Kuko nta research, ubwenge bwacu ari kumazuru, uburebure, ubugufi, aho ava, sekuru, sekuruza etc....!!!!!!!!!!

"Human migration history is clearly very complex, particularly for an island nation such as ours, and this study further debunks the idea that there are simple and distinct populations or 'races'."

None se abantu nka ba Mr R, cyangwa abajya mu mashyamba kurwana bavuga ko barwanira amoko yabo bazi bo ari bande?

Kuvana amoko mu ndangamuntu siwo muti kuko n'ubundi abari biyizi ko ari Abahutu/Abatutsi/Abatwa bakomeza kubyimenyaho no kubimenywaho n'abandi.

Uwashaka kuba koko umurevolutionaire yakoresha Y chromosome analysis.

Byahenda ariko ahari byacecekesha abantu nka ba Mr R cg abandi barwanye batekereza ko barwanira ubwoko maze bakaba bakwikanga bategekwa na ba Ruharwa (aha ndashaka kuvuga n'abo mu bwoko bundi- ni image nkoresheje gusa).

Mumbabarire navangavanze indimi.

Simoni


 

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RE: Ubwirwa n'iki ko uri Umuhtu/Umututsi
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Ikimbwirako ndi umututsi ?

Nuko abazungu banyifuza bagashaka ko mba umuzungu nkabo cg se bashaka kuba abanyafrica nkanjye.

Signature:
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{[(( R ))]}

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----- Message d'origine -----

Rwandans,

We seem to hate or like each other or group ourselves depending on regions, clans etc... but the following is fascinating.

African Y chromosome haplogroup found in WHITE BRITISH:

There has been proper scientific research published in the European Journal of Human Genetics that shows White men from a particular area called Yorkshire have a Y chromosome of West Africa descent.

Their family tree shows black inhabiting Yorkshire well before the slave trade.

Furthermore, DNA analysis of the third US president, Thomas Jefferson mapped his Y chromosome to North-East Africa or Middle East.

And more importantly, rather than behaving as supremacists, please note that the majority of White Brits, through science, have understood: "(...) what it means to be British is complicated and always has been".

Why would being Hutu/Tutsi/Twa be simple? Kuko nta research, ubwenge bwacu ari kumazuru, uburebure, ubugufi, aho ava, sekuru, sekuruza etc....!!!!!!!!!!

"Human migration history is clearly very complex, particularly for an island nation such as ours, and this study further debunks the idea that there are simple and distinct populations or 'races'."

None se abantu nka ba Mr R, cyangwa abajya mu mashyamba kurwana bavuga ko barwanira amoko yabo bazi bo ari bande?

Kuvana amoko mu ndangamuntu siwo muti kuko n'ubundi abari biyizi ko ari Abahutu/Abatutsi/Abatwa bakomeza kubyimenyaho no kubimenywaho n'abandi.

Uwashaka kuba koko umurevolutionaire yakoresha Y chromosome analysis.

Byahenda ariko ahari byacecekesha abantu nka ba Mr R cg abandi barwanye batekereza ko barwanira ubwoko maze bakaba bakwikanga bategekwa na ba Ruharwa (aha ndashaka kuvuga n'abo mu bwoko bundi- ni image nkoresheje gusa).

Mumbabarire navangavanze indimi.

Simoni


 

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